
“As The World Turns in Dolega”
This is the last I will comment on this story, but since I shared the problem of the Miller’s . . . who may go down in Panama’s oral history like “Canoe Man & His Wife” . . . and in fairness to Citrico, who certainly looked like the big bad wolf and maybe does need a new PR consultant . . . here’s the latest take of Don Winner of Panama Guide [a commercial Panama news, rumour and opinion site and not just a personal blog with no financial interest, like me] . . .
“We All Got Played: Everyone who owns a website and covered this story. Everyone who wrote and email in support. Basically, I’m not happy. Can you tell? Screw this… I still get suckered into this kind of bullshit every now and again. The only difference is that now it takes me less time to figure it out.”
You can read the latest chapter on Winner’s site here. I’ve never met these people, the Millers, and I’m sorry that the story seems to end in this way. It certainly does illustrate both the power of Internet social communication on tools like blogs, Twitter, Facebook and the like, and the need for companies to be cognisant of and utilize electronic public relations. It also illustrates the perils of commenting or expressing an opinion on “news” . . . but that’s a risk you always take when you express any opinion. It’s just that online . . . it’s out there!
However, the point I made in “Things that go bump in the night” remains . . . as expats we are living in a strange country, with laws and ways of doing things and a legal system which is totally different than what most of us were accustomed to “back home”, wherever that was. To these kind of issues . . . and the confusion of the Miller issue remains, regardless of whether or not all of the “facts” and background were disclosed in the online discussion . . . still give expats sleepless nights.
OK, on to happier things!
Well, almost!
Comments
I received this email from an unhappy Alma **** . . .
“Why are you using my name on line and private information, when I don’t know who you are.”
So after my initial thought, “Who the hell is she and what is she talking about?” I did some searching back through my blogs and found the initial comment she had posted using the “Comment” section of the blog, and it read . . .
“Could you recommend a doctor for a hernia operation? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Valma”
And the Comment showed the user name on her computer which included her last name. So, since she had read my blog and responded, she obviously knew who I was. When I responded to her question I did not use her last name and just answered her question as best I could.
Well I removed her initial “Comment” post, and we are now friends . . . again, and hopefully her surgery went well. But to this Valma, and all the thousands of other Valmas out there, just remember that when you post a comment on blogs and Web sites it is likely that it is going to be “public” and online for all to see.
Arthur asked,
We are booked on the 10 day Panama trip on the Zuiderdam in November. I have narrowed down Gatun Lake tours (51/2 hrs) to either the Gatun Lake Safari or the Canal Experience. What advice can you give me?
Hi Art! You’ll enjoy the ZUIDERDAM and the cruise! Answers at http://richarddetrich.wordpress.com/canal-cruise/ Just FYI, neither tour is generally sold out before the ship sails, so don’t feel pressured to have to book on line. If you like you can wait and chat with the shore ex people and listen to the lecturer, and make up your mind then.
Concerns from Down Under
Dear Richard, I don’t want to sound like a repeat album but I am an Australian citizen travelling on a cruiseship AND going on a pre organised tour to Miraflores THEN REBOARDING THE SHIP IN colon. I AM WONDERING ….Do I need a tourist card for Panama.??? The embassies don’t talk about cruise ship situations or maybe you know a link that does.?? We appreciate people like you who help the misinformed or not so informed like us !! I Blame it on the cruise lines for not wanting to commit an answer. They should tell us what docs are required. Many Thanks once again, Mel cruise person. !!
Mel, The “Port Paper Officer” on the ship prepares a pile of paperwork for the Canal and Panama authorities with print outs of crew info and guest info. Generally they don’t want to see anyone or any passports, unless Interpol is looking for you or something. The cruise line should be able to advise you of what you need . . . and I’d push them hard for an answer.
I have never seen anyone actually checking anything for tour guests. If you have your cabin key card and a copy of your passport I would think you would be fine. I knew Aussie crew members who were on and off in Panama all the time, and I don’t think they had any special visa.
I know you don’t need to purchase the tourist card when you are on a cruise ship and get off for a tour. I doubt very much that you need any special visa, but the cruise line has the final answer since they must answer to the local authorities.
Tired of the Samba in Brazil
I JUST FOUND YOUR WEBSITE AND I AM TRYING TO READ IT COMPLETELY. OF COURSE IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME AS THERE IS A LOT TO READ. I AM CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE MOUNTAINS NEAR RIO DE JANEIRO, BRASIL. AN AMERICAN TRANSPLANT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOUR YEARS. I HAVE MADE A TRIP TO COSTA RICA AND RULED OUT THAT AREA. I HAVE MADE TWO TRIPS TO PANAMA AND HAVE DRIVEN FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER AND RULED OUT ALL AREAS BUT THE DAVID AREA. I AM AMAZED AT THE REALTORS AND HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND PROPERTIES. I WONDER IF YOU HAVE NOTICED THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT AS YOU COME FROM BOQUETE TO DAVID CALLED ****. I HAVE STOPPED BY THERE AND SPOKEN WITH THE OWNER/BUILDER. HE STARTED AT **** AND HAS NOW COME DOWN TO **** AND I THINK HE COULD DROP TO **** BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY AS THERE IS NO GATED ENTRANCE AT THIS TIME AND I WONDER IF WE EVER WENT TO A MOVIE WOULD WE RETURN HOME TO FIND THINGS MISSING? THERE IS NO YARD AND THE ROCKY SOIL SOMETIMES MAKE ME THINK PLANTING A TREE IN THE YARD MAY REQUIRE DYNAMITE. SINCE I LOVE A NICE YARD WITH PLANTS I MAY HAVE TO REQUEST A LOT OF DYNAMITE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE AREA AND ARE THERE MUCH BETTER AREAS TO PURCHASE?
MY HOUSE IN BRASIL IS 5 BEDROOMS, 5 BATHS AND A PRETTY WELL LOADED WITH CREATURE COMFORTS SUCH AS JACUZZI AND SAUNA. IT IS 406 SQ METERS (4076 SQ FT) IF YOU INCLUDE THE HUGE VERANDAH AND 334 SQ METERS (3594 SQ FT) IF YOU DON’T COUNT THE VERANDAH. THE PROPERTY IS 1400 SQ METERS. THE BEST I CAN SELL IT FOR IS **** DOLLARS. YES, IT IS TOO LARGE FOR ONLY 2 PERSONS. IT IS HARD TO LEAVE THE NICE HOME TO GO TO DAVID BECAUSE I WOULD BE GOING DOWN IN SIZE AND INTO THE UNKNOWN OF THE AREA. SOME OF THE REASONS TO THINK ABOUT MOVING FROM BRASIL ARE THE EXPENSES OF THE AREA DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT IS FLUCTUATING CURRENCY. WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME IT WAS ONE DOLLAR EQUALED 2.7 REAIS AND NOW IT HAS DROPPED TO 1.83 REAIS. LAST YEAR CAR TAXES/PLATE COST $875.00 AND HOUSE TAXES WERE $425.00 GASOLINE IS $5.55 PER GALLON BUT ALCOHOL (WHAT I USE IN MY FLEX ECOSPORT) IS $3.40 PER GALLON. FOOD IS VERY REASONABLE BUT RESTAURANTS ARE GETTING HIGHER ALL THE TIME. PASTA DISHES AT THE MALL FOR 2 IS $22.00 INCLUDING MANDATORY 10% TIP…… A BRAZILIAN BARBECUE RESTAURANT IS A LOT OF FOOD AND 2 CAN EAT THERE FOR $49.00 INCLUDING TIP. ANY VISAS FROM THE GOVERNMENT ARE VERY DEMANDING, INCONVENIENT AND COST YOU OUT THE YING YANG. IF I STAY HERE MY NEXT VISA WILL COST ME ABOUT $3,300.00 AND IT WILL BE VALID FOR 2 YEARS BUT WITH SOME RENEWAL FEES WILL BECOME PERMANENT.
SINCE YOU ARE STILL THERE YOU MUST FIND IT ENJOYABLE. WHAT ADVISE DO YOU HAVE FOR ME? STAY PUT OR MOVE TO DAVID? BEST REGARDS, RAY
First of all, Ray, Ray, Ray . . . LEARN TO USE THE DAMN SHIFT KEY! When you write online in capital letters IT IS SHOUTING!! . . . and bad form. Now, Ray sent me pictures of his gorgeous home in the mountains outside of Rio!! I think his house is now under contract, but it was beautiful! So here’s my response . . .
First, ****. Right now nothing is selling and I’m sure you could get a “deal”, but is that really where you want to live? Frankly, I’m not impressed by the development or the location. The yard in your home in Brazil looks lovely! It’s not just the rocky soil at ****, but it is the wind. We get strong Northerly winds in the dry season, winds peaking around January, February, March, and I mean STRONG winds!! Some areas nothing grows except a few types of trees. We have a friend who has a gorgeous home overlooking the quebrada (in the same area) . . she has tried all sorts of things, and spent lots of money on plants . . . all of which have died. About the only thing that grows is ficus . . . which could be why the landscaping there looks a little bleak.
The only development with any kind of real security in Valle Escondido . . . just sticking up a gate, and a gate house, and a few Price Smart cameras, with a sleeping guard isn’t going to do much. And Valle Escondido has even had occasional problems. But if you come back home and are suspicious . . . we never were . . . but we have friends there who have called security, security has come out with a shotgun and gone through the house first to be sure it is “clear.” Just having a guard means nothing if he has three jobs and sleeps all night. Valle Escondido has guards, fences, a naturally protected setting, and patrols all night. When we lived there I sometimes got calls from neighbors who were out of the country, and when they left they had forgotten to lock all the windows . . . and Valle Escondido security called them.
Boquete has tons of micro climates, so you need to do your homework. For instance where we now live in Palmira it is VERY dry during the dry season, and windy. Whereas in Boquete you get almost daily bajarique in the later afternoon. Over around Arco Iris it rains constantly. So you need to check things out and see what fits your expectations and lifestyle.
Your house in Brazil looks awesome!! There are always folks in the expat community who are looking to move on, maybe it’s just that the grass on the other side always looks greener, or it’s that their situation has changed, or they just like new adventures and new cultures. You might think about joining Boquete.org and listing your Brazilian place there. You just might find someone with a nice home in Boquete who’d like to try Brazil, or even work out a home exchange for 6 months with someone to see if you like it here, and if they like Brazil.
Prices are going up in Panama as well because we use the US dollar and as the dollar devalues, and since we import a lot, prices go up. The price of oil is another factor. Right now diesel is about $2.47 a gallon. It costs me about $80 to renew my car registration. A pasta dinner is going to run about $20-22 at Valle del Rio, plus mandatory 10% tip. A Brazilian barbecue is a whole lot of fantastic food: I can taste it now, and you guys have good beef! Dinner at Panamonte, probably the nicest restaurant in town, is going to run about $55 with tax and tip. You can of course eat at Central Park or Sabrosa (local Panamanian places) for less than $4 a person. So it is a matter of choice. The reason to come to Panama is the lifestyle, not the cost.
We like it here. It’s not perfect, but no place is. Hope that helps!
OK, now I’ve got to stop having fun and go get some work done!